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Oct 4, 2012 3:00am PDT
the debate by recognizing first lady michelle obama in the front row. >> obama: i just want to wish, sweetie, you happy anniversary and let you know a year from now we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. >> bill: maybe even 50 million people. which prompted mitt romney to get off his first zinger of the night. >> romney: congratulations to you, mr. president on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most romantic place you could imagine here with me. congratulations. >> bill: there you go. >> a rare moment of real, genuine humor from romney bot. >> bill: it was downhill from there. we're going to have a lot of help getting through the debate. all of you, of course, again your calls at 1-866-55-press. diana, congresswoman from colorado will be joining us as well as dennis van roekel, the president of the national education association. a lot of talk about education last night. a lot of talk about teachers lately. dennis van roekel here to talk about it this morning. we'll talk to reporters on the scene in denver, here in washington, d.c. who have been covering
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Sep 28, 2012 7:00pm PDT
debater. but according to beth myers . . . >> jennifer: and then president obama's top political advisor is just as glowing about mitt romney . . . they are so funny, my opponent he is abe lincoln and daniel webster all rolled into one. isn't that kind of weird hearing the campaign say such nice things about their opponents? believe me it's not going to last and it's all part of managing expectations before the debate. for more i'm joined by one of the country's foremost experts on the subject. samuel popkin who is a professor of political science at the university of san diego. he has worked on campaigns going back to the 1970s, and he is also the author of "the candidate." welcome back inside "the war room," profez or. >> it's a pleasure to be back with you governor. >> jennifer: all right. do you think this has been taken to a new level this year? >> i think it has been taken to a new level every year, and gets more mindless meaningless and irrelevant every year. >> jennifer: i love that. because? because? is it going to matter? >> no, nobody cares what you thought going in. i
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Oct 5, 2012 3:00am PDT
treat me differently because i'm a black man. people talk about barack obama going into the debate that he has to be careful of not being too arrogant. >> caller: that's part of it. that called being upitty. he loses regardless. he can be the uppity black man or the scary black guy that you don't want your kids to see. >> jamal: thank you, daryle. thanks for calling in. one of the things on this topic that is so fascinating to me. i keep trying to figure out who are the republicans appealing to on this question. look at how the american electorate votes, maybe the people who would be moved by a dog whistle are a little bit older. maybe they live outside of american cities, but they are not necessarily the young women in suburban areas. they are not parts of the coalition that republicans need to get. let's get one more call in. brandan in washington. >> caller: i wish democrats and liberals would stop playing the same games that republicans play. we know it is racism. everything that sununu said that a couple of others like gingrich have been saying, it's racism. it's like they are
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Oct 1, 2012 4:00pm PDT
president obama because he needs a knock knockout punch etc. you got to understand something. these debates are not for rhetorical customerses. facts matter. that's problem number one for the republicans. they don't have facts on their side. when paul ryan has challenged on the specifics of the plan, this is how badly he bungled on on the fox news channel. >> the problem is that everybody knows the specifics. >> let's talk about the specifics. >> i won't get into the baseline argument with you because that's what this is all about. >> i haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the time. it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> cenk: that's just not true. that's not the problem. the problem is that the math does not add up. if you give a 20% tax cult cut across the board and they will take away home mortgage deductions from the middle class that adds up to trillions of dollars in deficit why? because the giant tax cut for the rich. that's why he doesn't want get into the math, and that's why romney will have a tough time at the debates. facts are not on their side. obama
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Oct 1, 2012 9:00pm PDT
be thedefining issue in this debate. >> jennifer: what do you think, peter? do you think the obama campaign is going to agree that this campaign is a choice of very very different views about where the country is headed? >> well i think it may be a little bit of rope a dope going on here from the romney side. they really still want this to be about barack obama. you are going to hear i think at this debate -- and duf is correct -- you have will hear more from romney about himself and make himself a little bit more likable, but you will hear about his policies for the future. but the main thing i think these folks are going to concentrate on is if you like the last four years, boy oh boy love the next four. >> jennifer: right. >> they will try to make this more about the president. >> jennifer: what i think is going to be interesting on this, duf is if mitt romney is going to focus on the things that truly have been debunked before then he is going to be in a very awkward position, when he says he is going to prove that what the president said is a lie. >> i think really what is mor
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Oct 3, 2012 5:00pm PDT
the first presidential debate of 2012 between president obama and governor romney. my panelists here with me are governor eliot spitzer, host of "viewpoint"; cenk uygur, the host and founder of "the young turks"; governor jennifer grandholm, two-time governor of michigan, and the star of the recent democratic convention >> jennifer: you say that to all of the governors. [ laughter ] >> al gore: no. and host of "the war room," and comedian and political commentator, john fugelsang. we are here covering the debate. you'll see the stage in denver there. you see all of their supporters and friends and the folks who are gathered in the denver area for this debate. milling around waiting for the event to start. here on current, we're going to do something different from what the other networks are doing. we're in a new era now. i'm going to ask cenk uygur to tell you how social media plays into our coverage and the difference it makes in politics in this day and time. >> cenk: absolutely. i'm really looking forward to this debate. you are going to see all of the tweets and get instant
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Oct 3, 2012 10:00pm PDT
first of the 2012 presidential debates between president barack obama, the democratic nominee, and form massachusetts governor mitt romney, the republican nominee. this debate as the next three, two presidential one vice presidential are sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues and will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six roughly 15 minute segments. thousands of people offered suggestions on segment subjects but i made the final selections and for the record they were not submitted for approval to the commission or the candidates. the segments will be three on the economy and one each on health care the role of government, and governing. with an emphasis throughout on differences, specifics, and choices. both candidates will also have two-minute closing statements. the audience here in the hall has promised to remain silent. no cheers applause boos hiss among other noisy distracting things, so we may all concentrate on what the candidates have to say. there is a noise exception right now, thoug
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Oct 3, 2012 3:00am PDT
ferguson. >> hey jamal welcome. good morning everyone. president obama heads into the debates with a three-point lead over mitt romney according to the wall street journal poll showing voters prefer the president 46% to 49%. the poll shows many americans are feeling better about the economy, which, of course, is very good news for the president. 57% say it's in recovery, although 39% still say it is not. the president is also ahead in the latest swing state polls up eight points in virginia, 11 points in nevada and just three points in nevada where the debates are taking place tonight. with both romney and the president wrapping up final debate practice yesterday, joe biden was in north carolina and paul ryan in iowa. they traded jabs over the middle class. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been buried. we agree. >> mitt romney is under pressure to give more details into both his tax reform proposal and plans for the middle class. yesterday, he finally offered up an idea saying in order to pay for his reform each taxpayer would
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Sep 28, 2012 5:00pm PDT
presidential debate between the two contenders. both sides are working hard to shape expectations. beth myers sent out a memo that read in part . . . and obama campaign senior strategy david axelrod wrote, and i quote . . . for more on the expectations gain i'm joined by brent brent coburn. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> eliot: the expectation game, could we agree for the moment they are both really smart guys and we're hopefully going to have a good debate about substance. >> that's our hope. the debates a great opportunity for the american people tune in and the candidates tell their stories. that's what we plan to do. we hope the romney campaign comes prepared to do the same thing. beside his technical -- technical skills as a debater, we hope he finally comes to the table with some details. >> eliot: i think the american public and my perspective in all of this is no mystery, i share that there has been no specificity, the week there was supposed to be specificity it was swept away with the 47% comments. what would you ask him? >> how are you going to pay for these $5
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Oct 4, 2012 10:00pm PDT
all from last night's debate. watch. >> obama: governor romney and i both agree corporate tax rates are too high. i suspect on social security we have similar position. and governor romney and i agree we got to boost american energy production. we've made enormous process on drawing on ideas on republicans and democrats. >> cenk: it's a debate! this is not when you agree. this is when you disagree! it's a debate! so unfortunately, i had given mitt romney some advice on how he can possibly win this thing and i said, look, come at it from the left. watch what i said before the debate. >> i would attack from the left. you say wait a minute, mitt romney is not a progressive you're right. who cares. you think the media is going to call that out? they're not going to call that out. if mitt romney did a full attack on president obama during the debates from a progressive perspective, that would actually work. and he'd get to say what? i care about the middle class. think guy obviously doesn't. >> cenk: and i talked about the middle class. i talked about poverty banks etc. and then get a lo
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Oct 5, 2012 10:00pm PDT
enormous fail by cnn. now look, that doesn't mean that president obama did a good job in the debates. he didn't. we've said it many times. i will do it what i love to do on this program. whether it's romney or obama let me do it my way. if i were obama what would i do? first of all let me show you. i'd come out with a 2 x 4. no no, say that line about the 5 trillion-dollar again. go ahead say it. >> romney: i'm not in favor of a 5 trillion-dollar tax cut. that's not my man. my plan is not to put in any tax cut that will effect the deficit. i will bring down the deductions and taxes at the same time so the revenue stays in. >> cenk: yeah, yeah, that sounds good. you're going to do a 20% tax cut across the board. then a 2 trillion-dollar increase in the defense budget. then you're going to keep most of the popular deductions. and then you're going to balance the budget. and then you're going to give everybody a free unicorn! that's not how it works mitt! you're lying! there is no 5 trillion-dollar in deductions that you take away from just the rich. that's preposterous. and i'm not going t
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Oct 5, 2012 6:00am PDT
spin room right after the debate to say, well he can't really do that. as for taxed obama appeared to be caught off guard by the statement that his plan wouldn't increase taxes. much of romney's performance was rooted in deception from his very first answer when he tried to disown his tax program, and then finally he is unable to deem regulation he would keep -- he has been saying for how long he would repeal dodd-frank. and suddenly just because he said it, oh no you have to have regulation -- [ cuckoo clock chimes ] >> stephanie: unbelievable. paul tonko, good morning, congressman. >> good morning, stephanie. how are you. it's great to join you and your listeners. >> stephanie: you too. it was great to see you at the dnc. it really is stunning to try to fact check romney, right? >> the one that got me was the revenue reducing tax cut, and talk about this resulting growing of the base and, you know, it's -- it's so interesting that -- that the revenue-neutral concept is pretty much just nomenclature they are suggesting that as the tax base grows, in the future we'll recover revenues
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Oct 4, 2012 9:00pm PDT
hash over last night's presidential debate and look ahead to president obama's strategy in these days ahead we're going right now to chicago and ben labolt, the national press secretary for president obama's re-election. so ben welcome into "the war room" again. let's get right to it. what's the day after looking like for team obama tonight? >> well, you saw the president out there on the campaign trail today, calling out what were mitt romney's distortions last night. the president said that the same mitt romney didn't show up at the debate as showed up in the republican primaries. he was running away from his $5 trillion tax cut plan for millionaires and billionaires but we know the facts. the middle class and seniors would have to pay for the tax cut. he talked about replacing the affordable care act but he didn't say with what. he said he would cover people with pre-existing conditions. what he left out is if you have a pre-existing condition and aren't covered right now or between jobs, you're not going to be covered under mitt romney. we'll spend the next several days making cle
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Oct 1, 2012 3:00am PDT
first presidential debate. president obama will stay in nevada for the next few days to wrap up final preparations. he campaigned in las vegas last night to a group of 11,000 supporters and in an effort to manage his expectations said he's just an okay debater. >> i know folks in the media are speculating already on who's going to have the best zingers. >> you will. >> i don't know about that. president romney is a good debater. >> that is in response to reports that romney is prepping and plans on taking jabs at the president. obama spokeswoman is saying don't expect the president to fire any blows and he looks forward to continuing his conversation with the american people. the president is traveling with a prep team, david axelrod anita dunn and senator john kerry. kerry is playing romney during the mock debates with the president. the team is hunkering down to get the president ready. romney is campaigning in denver today with a stop with the wings over the rockies museum. paul ryan is at a rally in iowa. early voting in iowa is now underway. a washington post poll out this
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Oct 5, 2012 7:00pm PDT
debate president obama lead by 6 percentage points, so there is evidence the race is tightening. so we had to go right to the source of all polls for analysis, and we're joined by one of our favorite pollsters david merman. david thank for coming back inside "the war room." so let's just pull back for one second. how do you see the jobs numbers today shaking out with the debate performance this week? does that balance out? >> i think they are both important in different ways but over the long term i think the jobs numbers are more important. the very narrow slice of swing voters we have in this race are trying to figure out are things turning around, and these numbers will help that significantly. we have seen continued growth, and if romney can't make a case on the economy that things are getting worse, it will be hard for him to catch up to obama. >> jennifer: how soon before we really get a sense of how the debate on last wednesday plays out? >> the numbers we saw today are not meaningless. the instant reaction is the reaction to the debate. and it's pretty clear that romney won in
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Oct 4, 2012 5:00pm PDT
obama the president of the united states lazy? >> he didn't want to prepare for this debate. he's lazy and disengaged. >> eliot: wow. asked if sununu's comments had overtones, it seems that way. obama's senior adviser david axelrod thinks romney's say what works strategy will ultimately work against him. >> eliot: which had better mean the next debate unless the president wants to see this slip away from him. joining me now rolling stone national affairs correspondent tim dickinson and doug thornel democratic strategist, knickerbocker former spokesman for the democratic campaign committee and traveling press secretary for howard dean's 2004 presidential campaign. thank you both for joining us. it was not so much fun watching last night and today, i kind of had the sense that we've read at different points in our lives about the seven stages of grief. i kind of saw the democratic party working through the stages today. tim, let me ask you are they now beginning to deal with reality and figure out how to put these things back together? >> you know, i actually went back and rewatched
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Oct 2, 2012 3:00am PDT
on romney's campaign schedule and president obama is just wrapping up some final debate prep in nevada. in ohio, early voting gets underway today. here's a look at some great video of people camping out to be able to cast their vote at the cuyahoga county board of elections. state senator nina turner was very first and said the long line is symbolic of how important voting is in ohio. cleveland mayor frank jackson also showed up for some moral support. so far 32% of republicans have requested early ballots. and 26% of democrats. and these early votes in ohio could really be symbolic. mitt romney likely will not become president unless he can take ohio. more john fuglesang coming up on the "full court press" after the break. stay with us. you're about to watch an ad message created by a current tv viewer for capella university. matter. >> i work with adults with developmental disabilities. growing up i had a single mother of four and people in the community were so helpful when they didn't even have much themselves. seeing people and their hardships made me want to make a differe
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Oct 1, 2012 6:00am PDT
" ♪ ] mitt romney prepares for his pi otal first debate against obama his campaign struggling to regain its footing. >> it's hard. stop it. >> stephanie: he's still struggling to connect with voters, a challenge that confronted him since the primaries, back when he was mitt and the problem is he's still mitt. >> ann: stop it. >> stephanie: stop being mitt. stop being so mitty. the mittiest campaign ever! you're doing a mitty job seriously. >> he's not doing as good a job as walter mitty. >> stephanie: romney continues to be dogged by the release of the secretly taped video that shows him denigrating half the population. unique campaign. half of america -- >> i was in nevada over the weekend. a swing state. all of the commercials that you see are just absolutely remarkable. it is like one after another. >> stephanie: polls are showing it is really -- it is really swinging independents -- >> democrat's commercials are really good. >> stephanie: you can just use -- footage of the candidates. >> that's all they do in one of the commercials. >> stephanie: roomful of writers. they're like oka
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Oct 1, 2012 8:00pm PDT
the upcoming debates. g.m. is alive and obama that will work to the disadvantage of romney. he wants to talk about the economy, which i think is what he sees as the administration's weakenings. the more time he spends on foreign policy it takes him away from his core message. >> eliot: the issue of iran and the bomb that was in the news during the u.n. general assembly meeting, where are we on that. the president seems to be inching towards a demonstration towards a lack of patience, and the israeli view is that the time runs short. i mean, is this a matter of months where we need some resolution? >> well, i think there is some makings of a deal but it's going to take time, and to work on this. an example of where romney has rhetoric on iran, but when pressed what is his bottom line, it's similar if not identical president obama. >> eliot: p.j. crowley as always, thank you so much for your wisdom. >> my pleasure. >> eliot: tune in to current tv for our debate conscience where he'll be joined by cenk uygur governor grand home, john fugelsang and vice president al gore. join us h
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Oct 2, 2012 7:00pm PDT
interesting is it's actually obama voters who are more likely to say they're interested in the debates than the romney voters. it is almost like we want to see our guy get up there and really take it to romney. so i think that it is unlikely that the debate will influence that many people. both of these candidates are good debaters. it is a format that both of them, i think will come across as leaders and knowledgeable. so i bet it doesn't move that many voters unless someone makes a mistake. we'll see. we've never been in this terrain before. >> jennifer: you've been doing this awhile. how much impact do debates on the presidential level really have usually? >> usually, they can have quite a bit. particularly for a challenger. you've been in this situation too. i have to commend you governor, you're one of the few women officeholders who decisively won her debates. usually to is harder for women to win their debates. you really killed your opponent in the debates. you have a lot of good advice to give in this regard. but it helps the challengers usually because it is the first time th
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Oct 3, 2012 6:00am PDT
everybody. so some good news just out for president obama this morning going in tonight's debate. we won't have the official jobs numbers until later in the week. according to payroll processor adp, the private sector added 162,000 jobs in september and that's 9,000 more than expected. so unofficially, some good news going into tonight. the president obama also has about a 3-point lead in national polls according to the "wall street journal" nbc news one out most recently. senator rob portman has been playing the president as mitt romney prepares for the debate tonight. and he told cnn in an exclusive interview, it is his job to get under the candidate's skin and prepare him for the toughest attacks. portman has been the g.o.p. go-to guy for years. since 2000 he's played al gore, jon lieberman, john kerry and john edwards and now president obama. pretty malleable guy. he's reportedly been helping romney work on not getting overly defensive which is his weak point. he then tends to say things he wishes he hadn't. everyone has an opinion as to what to look for tonight. prettyies could -- pol
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Oct 4, 2012 8:00pm PDT
upcoming debate with bile o'reilly. >> strategy that obama took, it is the rope-a-dope but instead of letting your opponent punch himself out you just get beat up. >> eliot: ouch. piling insult on top of self-inflicted injury, john sununu told msnbc's andrea mitchell -- >> what people saw last night i think, was a president that revealed his incompetence, how lazy and detached he is. >> did you really mean to call barack obama the president of the united states lazy? >> he didn't want to prepare for this debate. he's lazy and disengaged. >> eliot: wow. asked if sununu's comments had overtones, it seems that way. obama's senior adviser david axelrod thinks romney's say what works strategy will ultimately work against him. >> eliot: which had better mean the next debate unless the president wants to see this slip away from him. joining me now rolling stone national affairs correspondent tim dickinson and doug thornel democratic strategist, knickerbocker former spokesman for the democratic campaign committee and traveling press secretary for howard dean's 2004 presidential campaign. than
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Oct 1, 2012 10:00pm PDT
substantial. >> blatantly dishonest answers. >> i've never been in a presidential debate like this. >> obama: who will have the zingers. >> romney: the $10,000 bet. >> no matter how many times they tell you they are he going start talking specifics really soon, they don't do it. >> it would take me too long to go through all of this now. >> the reason is because the math doesn't work. >> the devil is in the details. >> the devil is in the details. the angel is in the policy. >> why are you and romney losing? >> cenk: indeed, why are you losing? well, ladies and gentlemen it appears we got 'em. now last week i predicted that the race was over. but before that if you watch the show you know on set 19th i made a different prediction, not only would we believe that, but the republicans would believe it and act in accordance. we're going to count up, and we're going to find out how many days it will take before the republicans pull the chute and say, no, we're not putting any more money in the presidential race. we're shifting the money in the senate and congressional races because it will happen
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Oct 2, 2012 4:00pm PDT
, wrong again, bob. eight out of the last nine presidential debates, gore-bush, bush-kerry obama-mccain won by the democrats. they were polled right after the debates the american people every single time. well eight out of nine, hey you know what, the democrat is the clear winner. so you never see that in the media. oh, my god, i got to be neutral so i'm going to ignore the facts and be neutral. i don't think that would help mitt romney's cause. god for bid if you looked at his promise, they're horrible. riddled with factual problems. so what in the world should mitt romney do? he's this far behind. he doesn't have the facts on his side. his programs sucks. his party is unpopular. let's do a fun exercise here. i'm going to tell what you i would do if i were romney. now, since mitt romney can't really defend his own position, his tax plan is a gigantic win for the rich. he doesn't care about 47% of the country, and the list goes on and on. i would go on the offense. how do you go on the offense against president obama? you can't attack him from the right wing position, because obama is
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Oct 5, 2012 8:00pm PDT
below 8% for the first time since january 2009. it's good news for president obama, after his underwhelming performance in wednesday' debate. and bad news for mitt romney, and his conspiracy-minded supporters on the republican right. more on that in a moment. according to the bureau of labor statistics, unemployment dropped to 7.8% last month down .3 of a percent since august. employers added 114,000 new jobs. including 104 in the private sector and 10,000 in the public sector which had seen months of steady decline. in july's number revised to 181,000 with an additional 40,000 new jobs. president obama shared the news with a cheering crowd at a campaign appearance in fairfax virginia. >> obama: this morning we found out that the unemployment rate had fallen to its lowest level since i office. but today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> eliot: not if you're mitt romney. the g.o.p. contender talked down the jobs numbers and the economy at an a
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Oct 2, 2012 6:00am PDT
points on the board? [ cheers ] >> obama: no, no, governor romney, he is a good debater. i'm just okay. >> consider your expectations lowered. >> stephanie: all right. >> how low can you go? >> stephanie: karen in virginia you are on the "stephanie miller show." hi karen. >> hi, miss stephanie. how are you. >> stephanie: good. okay. >> caller: it is pouring down rain here in virginia. cantor's tears because wayne powell came out swinging in that debate. ♪ let's hear it for the boy ♪ >> caller: he started out swinging and all you could see was cantor just -- you could tell he was getting furious. >> he was probably bitchy faced -- >> caller: he didn't answer any questions. he danced around -- it is all about how these attacks that's not getting anything done in washington -- >> yeah, but cantor is not getting anything done in washington. >> stephanie: yeah who would be behind that? >> caller: gee i don't know maybe him. >> stephanie: that is awesome. i had a feeling that wayne con for was going to kick ass. >> caller: he did. why last year when we were facing the debt crisis an
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Sep 28, 2012 10:00pm PDT
put a tremendous amount of weight on the debates. because of that everybody plays the expectations game. what is funny here is all of the republicans are saying oh my god, obama is going to win. >> mitt romney has the advantage because he has been through 20 of these debates. >> mitt romney is a business guy, and hasn't had a debate against a democrat in overten years. >> mitt romney is just in practice. >> having been through this much more recently than president obama, i think he starts with an advantage. >> i think barack obama will be formidable. >> but i have never been in a presidential debate like this and it will be a new experience. >> the president is going to lose the first debate next week. he will lose it. >> cenk: i love all of that. i happen to disagree with governor governor grandholm. i think at the worse it will be a tie. look at these moments. >> i am not going to exploit age for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> i have as much experience in the congress as jack kennedy did. >> i served with jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mi
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like you. >>now that's politically direct. >> eliot: it's so predictable as the presidential debates approach, a spokesperson starts down playing how his candidate will do, hoping that reports will be that barack obama or mitt romney did better than expected. it has nothing to do with who is really scoring more points and it doesn't fool anyone. we have all seen this kind of public relations stunt before no one is buying it. both candidates are smart and articulate, and skilled at this kind of debate, both campaigns and their candidates should be focusing on the serious questions that need to be answered. here are a few, for mitt romney governor you have attacked the individual mandate requirement in the president's health care plan, but approved it for massachusetts, and you, newt gingrich, and the heritage foundation argued it was the key to sound health care economics until barack obama adopted explain why the individual mandate is no longer essential to health care economics. second question, put aside the language about foreign policy and the rhetoric about not apologizing, name
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Oct 5, 2012 4:00pm PDT
president obama's debate. for that let's bring in an epic political correspondent. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: now michael there was a lot of quotes in the "new york times" to president obama and some of them make sense and some of them don't. let me give you a-30 and run it by you. hours before the debate visors said they were worried during his preparation because he was frequently interrupted by his presidential duties, and they indicated they were nervous he was under prepared. now here they're basically saying he's president. he had to be rushed to do presidenting--are you buying that. >> since aback lincoln presidents have been debating and they've been presidents. i don't buy that. if he was interrupted fine. but what people have to realize the president had an off night. whether he was unprepared, whether he was tired whether he just wasn't up to it that night. he had an off night. it is not a disaster for his presidency. it does not undo all of this. he got outflanked by an opponent and he'll be back for more. it's not that big of a deal and look at what it is. if you m
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Oct 2, 2012 5:00pm PDT
that should be debated. >> i think you two have a problem with your president. president obama doesn't support what you want to have happened. >> eliot: you're right. >> he doesn't want to talk about it. >> absolutely. >> he doesn't want to talk about it because he doesn't want to get into that philosophical debate because unfortunately the debate is polarized. once you say common sense gun control. you hear from people who say you want to take away all of my guns. unfortunately, in the debate, even though policywise, there is a middle ground in the rhetorical debate, there hasn't been a middle ground. >> eliot: as with many issues, we move to the extremes where the possibility of forging a consensus in the middle is gone and the nra is taking an absolutist position on the second amendment and other people take absolutist positions on the other side. we won't thread that needle now. the president has not been leading on this issue. i've been critical of him on that as well as editorial boards saying we understand the politics of it. maybe now in the second term, he will have th
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last night's debate. as soon as i saw president obama do his beautiful little smile i think he was hoping romney would go etch-a-sketch on him, and -- and he did. and now the democrats have all of these wonderful snipits that they can use for commercials between now and the election and i think we saw the corporate bully come out last night in romney, and that wasn't good for him. >> it was almost like he had five cups of coffee. >> caller: yeah, and then he started sweating and i kept thinking about the nixon debates, and when he got that hanky out and started wiping down, i thought i think he thinks he is on a role here. i think he was baited. i think obama did what he needed to do last night, and got romney to go etch-a-sketch. >> stephanie: certainly the fact checkers as usual had a field day this morning. >> yeah. >> stephanie: kevin in orange county, you are on the "stephanie miller show." >> caller: hey, stephanie. you are going to the 30-days to victory tour on sunday right? >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: i'll be there in the orchestra, hopefully i'll see you. >> stephanie:
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Oct 5, 2012 5:00pm PDT
election. mitt romney is a vehicle. you pointed out obama's hall in the money front. i read that romney is hauling in for the debate. he wants deregulation and benefits for the .01%. you're seeing that happen, and the tea party is willing to sit back and be quiet because they want to a winning candidate. >> eliot: they've made a fundamental pragmatic decision as they saw the campaign slipping away from them. >> we've seen this before in the republican party where you have a candidate who may not pay allegiance lip service to the movement conservatives the movement right, the movement extremists but they want to win. you know what i think? i think we play an important role the media--not left will be right but accountability truth-telling, watchdog media needs to make clear to the american people what mitt romney and paul ryan's policies are on medicare healthcare. >> eliot: i think all that have is correct. but it runs a little deeper than that. there is a basic goodness to the american public. a sense of where mitt romney was going in the convection, the 47% video which incapsulated ev
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Oct 2, 2012 10:00pm PDT
medicaid, medicare and military spending. you got obama and romney debating who is going to spend more money on medicare when we need to have a raging debate and discussion in this country on how we slash medicare spending or we find ourselves with no healthcare for those over 65. that's the alternative. the monetary collapse--excuse me quickly. a monetary collapse when the dollars we have in our pocket don't buy a thing because of the inflation that is going to go along with borrowing and printing money to the tune of 43 of every dollar. >> cenk: ron paul seems to be saying the same thing do you but you haven't been able to capture them-- >> that's not the case. your ron paul supporter i'm saying the same things as ron paul. i ran for the republican nomination. i thought it would be really hard to marginalize two people on stage saying the same thing ron paul and myself. i didn't find myself marginalized. i found myself down-right excluded while ron paul was marginalized. >> cenk: thank you so much for joining us. >> cenk, thank you much. >> cenk: all right running for president for t
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tonight from houston to discuss the debates ahead of tomorrow's verbal bout between president obama and governor romney is douglas brinkley. douglas is a presidential historian. rice university professor and author of the new book "cronkite." welcome back inside "the war room." >> thanks, governor. thanks for having me. >> jennifer: you bet. so is it just me or do you also think that tomorrow's debate is being pumped than any other debate at least in my memory? >> well, i think so because it seems like it has been a longer campaign right? the media now -- every day really every second, people are watching what obama and romney says. it is the dominant story. i think people are feeling this is one of those elections of a lifetime which vision for america to go to. so it is a lot of hype for this one and there is a feeling now with barack obama up in the polls, three points nationally but up in some -- almost all of the swing states he might be able to close the deal with the american people tomorrow night if he has a good performance. on the other hand, as governor chris christie sai
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Oct 4, 2012 7:00pm PDT
corrected during the debate and that was the job of course of barack obama and for whatever reason, he didn't do it. >> jennifer: let it go means that you end up missing the opportunity to set the record straight in front of 50 million people. we talked about this last night. -- last time, whether it is a better strategy to spend your time rebutting lies or to go instead on the attack. do you think that the president should have gone after each one of these lies that romney has thrown at him? if he does, he wastes his time in the attack -- he doesn't get a chance to go on offense. >> no. that's absolutely right but the thing is on things like the healthcare, that's an obama strength and so what you try to do ideally i think is take the lie, sort of turn it around and make it work for you on your turf. because you know, you're in the ballpark talking about issues. if somebody throws a lie out there that's of a personal nature if mitt romney said where is your birth certificate or something like that, you do ignore that but on substantive ground, i think you really have to use the debate
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Oct 2, 2012 8:00pm PDT
debate may be not so -- it may be like john mccain and barack obama four years ago. the first debate was the first letdown. a lot of wonkiness. they didn't go after each other very hard. they were a little bit nervous in feeling each other out. >> eliot: the notion they would enjoy it, i can tell you i've been through debates nothing on term with that, you don't enjoy it. there are butterflies in your stomach when you walk out there. you know the campaign potentially rests on every utterance you make. there is the his tansey -- hesitancy no matter how skilled you may be, there is a hesitancy and a fear. that's unavoidable. >> how do you deal with glenn beck who is a master of television regardless of what people may think about him. they're using a nice picture of you grimacing. glenn beck has the smile and you don't. >> eliot: i'm trying to scare him. getting prefight cut to look bloodied and beaten up even before we start. it will be fun. in a way this emotionally is similar to what people go through in a debate. you want to make your points. glenn beck and i disagree as fundamenta
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Oct 5, 2012 9:00pm PDT
president obama found out the other night in the debate. when you're explaining, you're losing. it seemed to be a clear differentiation. there's a difference people who don't support you electorally. there were parts of my district where i didn't get support but i was expected to be congressman for the entire district. i'd say during your time, there were certain areas of the straight that were republican strongholds, but yet you chose to be governor of all the people. i think mr. romney was making that comment as he prepares based on the verdict on the first tuesday following the first monday in november to become the first president. >> that's what he should have been saying. that's not what he actually said at the fundraiser. there were conservative members in the republican party who did support his 47% remarks when he came out saying yeah, that's the mitt romney we thought we elected. how does that play with them? >> i quite frankly don't think it's that big a deal, really, because we all know in an election campaign, the idea is you have your base. you turn out the base, but
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